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Ray Mitcham:
Why did the Warren Commission look at just the drawings of the wounds in JFK's
body instead of asking for the X rays and photographs? Could it have been too
embarrassing for their case if they had to explain the real thing?
Doctor Hume " I do not believe, sir, that the availability of the the X rays
would materially assist the Commission." :rofl:
"The pictures would show more accurately and in more detail teh character of
the wounds .. They would also perhaps give the Commissioners a bett- better is
not the best term , but a more graphic picture of the massive defect in 388" If
that was the case why didn't he show them?
Kevin Raftery:
But If they were willing to consider a conspiracy (after the dictabelt
analysis), why would they not have considered using the X-rays in making that
determination? To reinforce it.
Bill Brown:
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None of the medical photos would get accepted into court evidence.
Why is that?
David Josephs:
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Why is that?
It's called chain of possession and the AUTHENTICATION of EVIDENCE Bill...
When there are conflicting testimonies as to which photos/xrays were even taken,
that xrays are copies, that photos and xrays are not marked correctly for an
autopsy...
and we have numerous witnesses who see two sets of these items... one showing
one thing, and another showing a different thing...
There would be no way for the prosecutor to establish which photos were actually
taken at the autopsy and which were not... the only thing these items would be
admitted into evidence for, is the conspiracy to kill JFK and cover it up using
the medical evidence.
THEN it gets admitted... :thumbs1xx:
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There is another witness who developed autopsy photography, who developed
pictures, Chief Robert Knudsen, Navy chief photographers mate, who told the
House Committee in a deposition that he developed pictures and he knew darn well
that at least one of them showed probes in the body because he remembers
examining the negative after he developed it. So, that’s another type of photo
that is missing.
And as far as the head X-rays, the skull X-rays go, Jerold Custer, one of the
two X-ray technicians was very, very consistent over the years about one thing,
he was inconsistent about many other things but he was very consistent about one
thing, and that is that five skull X-rays were taken. Well, right now there are
only three skull X-rays in the National Archives. And for those who may not
aware we should explain I guess that the autopsy photographs and X-rays were
held by the Secret Service in a safe in the old Executive Office Building that
is across the street from the White House. They were held by them until April of
1965. And then Senator Robert Kennedy, the deceased president’s brother, Senator
Kennedy wrote a letter to the military physician for President Johnson, Admiral,
actually by this time Vice-Admiral Burkley, Burkley was the military physician
for JFK and for Johnson, after JFK was killed he got promoted from Rear-Admiral
to Vice-Admiral, so Burkley was still around controlling access to these things
Senator Kennedy, RFK, wrote him a letter and said I want those materials
transferred to Mrs. Lincoln at the Archives, that was, she was JFK’s secretary
and had some office space over there, and was working for Bobby at this time.
So, Admiral Burkley conducted an inventory of what was in the safe. He had
Secret Service people sign the inventory. He signed it. So, all the materials
that are in the archives today were transferred by Burkley from the Secret
Service to Robert Kennedy. And then about a year and a half later from Robert
Kennedy to the archives. So, that is the provenance of those items.
So, anyway, I think now that we’ve started to talk about X-rays it’s probably
time to move onto area two of fraud in the evidence. So, the first area that we
just discussed was destruction of evidence, I mean pictures that we know were
taken that are not in the collection. Oh, and I would add one thing to that
category, the most credible witness that we interviewed of the ten deponents was
Sandra Spencer. Sandra Spencer was a Navy photographers mate who was not at the
autopsy but who did develop post mortem photographs the weekend of the
assassination. She developed color negatives. She is absolutely certain. She
even remembered the name of the chemical process, you know, required to process
color negatives. She developed color negatives that weekend and there are no
color negatives in the collection, there are only color positive transparencies,
slides if you will, 4 by 5 inch slides which are really called transparencies
because they are not mounted they are just large pieces of film and black and
white negatives. That is what is in the archives today, black and white
negatives and color positive transparencies, they are all four inches by five
inches, they are large format. She developed large format color negatives and
not only that but when we deposed her and showed her the existing collection in
the archives she shook her head and said these are not the pictures I developed.
She said the president looks much worse here. He looks really beat up. There is
a lot of blood in the photographs. And she said no, the photographs that she
developed the president had been cleaned up. He looked much better, Apparently
they were after a post mortem reconstruction, probably after the morticians were
finished. So, those were other additional photographs which were made and are
not in the collection. And probably the most significant one that she discussed
is, and remember now she is talking about photos taken after the reconstruction
by the morticians was completed, a photograph that still had a blow out in the
back of the head, a big hole in the back of the head, about two inches wide,
where the scalp could not be closed and where there was no bone. So, that
recollection of hers, under oath, alone made her trip to Washington worthwhile
because what it said was that the observations made by the Dallas treating
physicians were surely correct, that there was an exit wound in the back of
President Kennedy’s head because she remembered this photo, after
reconstruction, after the autopsy showing the exact same thing.
Paul May:
What a hoot these kooks are lol. Marsh isn't impressed by medical experts and
Josephs is only impressed with himself lol, lol. And the beat goes on after 48
years!!! Conspiracy bias is worse than heart disease. Heart disease can be
treated!
Thomas Purvis:
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Why did the Warren Commission look at just the drawings of the wounds in JFK's
body instead of asking for the X rays and photographs? Could it have been too
embarrassing for their case if they had to explain the real thing?
Doctor Hume " I do not believe, sir, that the availability of the the X rays
would materially assist the Commission." :rofl:
"The pictures would show more accurately and in more detail teh character of
the wounds .. They would also perhaps give the Commissioners a bett- better is
not the best term , but a more graphic picture of the massive defect in 388" If
that was the case why didn't he show them?
And the correct answer is:
Primarily due to the fact that (especially the anterior/posterior X-ray of the
head) shows a bullet entry into the rear of the skull that is in fact some 10
cm/4-inches higher on the skull (the "cowlick" entry) than was the bullet entry
identified by all three autopsy surgeons
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