SLING MOUNTS

Wally World wrote;
Hey you demented old pervert prick..... You said:.... Quote: ..." "I
pointed out that the rifle in CE-133-a had Round Bottom sling
mounts."... Unquote

Now's the time to PROVE that there was ever a time when Italy
manufactured a 40 inch long Mannlicher Carcano Model 91 /38 with..."
ROUND"... sling mounts on the bottom of the rifle.

Now present the documents ( design specifications) and photos of a
Mannlicher Carcano with "ROUND" sling mounts.....or admit that you're
a liar.

>
> SEE>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm
>
> "Walt" <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a176224f-888a-49df-beb3-140e93da3d27@r1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 4, 7:36 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:

I write;

Carcano Database - Carcano M91 (Including M91/24)

Last updated: Tue 23 Jan 2001 12:55:00 GMT

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Model

Caliber

Serial Number

Manufacturer

Year

Rebuild

Special Features

Stamps

Comments

Primary Use

Condition

Location

Model

Variant

Sporterized

Gun

Stock

Bolt

A.D.

Fascist

Sights

Sling Swivels

Bolt

Other

Rifle

Stock

Bolt

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

F2602

Terni

1892

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split lug

Collection

Excellent

Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

SG 3012

4 letters (JRGV?) 3012

D2934

Brescia

1893

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Straight

Tubato

TA inside a circle;
65;
A coat of arms or shield inside a circle,
MC inside a circle.

Cheekside butt has oval within an oval, which appears to have a
5-pt star OFT.COST.ART 5-pt star
and something else in the inner oval.

Collection

Very Good

Corpus Christi
Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

L2703

8548

Terni

1894

Brescia
1935 XIII

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

PG in oval;Crown above N?.

Has leather sling

Collection

Very Good

Michigan
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

S1204

Torino

1894

Torino
1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

With original first pattern sling (wide, not adjustable).
Rebuild due to defects in project of the stock in the first model.

Competition Shooting

Excellent

Roma
ITALY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

N8692

EK8065

Z2176

Terni

1894

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

PG in an oval on the barrel;
Crown over a shield in an oval on the barrel;
Upsidedown PO on the right side of the barrel;
Crown over TRI in a circle on the reciever;
ME in an oval just under the TRI stamp.

Faint outline of a large cartouche in the stock by the serial #.

PG in an oval.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

San Diego
California
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

DF9411

Torino

189?

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Hebrew markings

Collection

Good

Turnersville
New Jersey
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

E3356

D1226

None

Brescia

1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split lug bolt

Hunting

Very Good

Morgantown
West Virginia
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

AA18

RL6011

Brescia

1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

New Prague
Minnesota
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

EN8729

XH6826

Torino

1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split Lug Extractor

BE, a crown & OS on reciever;
Tubata & Torino PO on barrel.

Needs replacement upper handguard.

Collection

Very Good

Hondo
Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

FL1993

Terni

1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

On left octagonal barrel flat: very small GS in oval, and a crest topped by a crown in an oval;
On right octagonal barrel flat: PO .

Collection

Good/Very Good

Louisville
Kentucky
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

GN3559

Torre Annunziata

1895

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

5 pointed star on side of stock.

Collection

Very Good

Verona
Virginia
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

1G9783

Brescia

1896

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Stock has been refinished.
Bolt number does not match serial number.

Collection

Very Good

Long Beach
California
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

AE3604

Brescia

1897

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Dual Target Triggers

PO on barrel base.
TA on barrel base.

Collection

Good

New Braunfels
Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

BA3552

EG1629

Brescia

1897

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Hexagonal stamp on left side, hard to read, with Royal shield and date of 1897.

Two crown proofs on bolt knob, one more worn than the other.

I presume this rifle was refurbished and reblued after WWI, and not issued thereafter.
Few small signs of pitting under blueing (thick and black) at woodline.
Repair at stock heel, no import or rework marks.

Collection

Excellent

New Jersey
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

GM2381

Terni

1897

Brescia
22

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale

Cartouche is lightly struck and hard to make out.

Walnut stock with birch handguard.

Collection

Very Good

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

OS8223

Illegible

Torino

1897

Hunting

Very Good

Campeche
Campeche
MEXICO

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

HM4245

Terni

1898

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

TNI in a circle on receiver.
OCR in a rectangle next to the name TERNI on top facet of barrel.

Has two large RE cartouches one on each side.
The one on the left side appears to have been double struck.
Letter D below bottom trigger gaurd screw.
Letter U above top trigger gaurd screw.

CV in an oval and stylised CE on top of bolt root.

Came with a Finnish sling marked SA and cleaning rod. Looks to be a refurbished rifle by RE but cant find a date when this was done. Great blueing and bore. No importation marks.

Collection

Good

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

NF9369

EN417

Torre Annunziata

1898

1946

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Barrel: FAG 46

Original serial number on stock (DH4205) has been overstamped;
Rebuild stamps on stock: FAG/46 and 5-pointed star.

Recently (as of 21 Sep 1998) purchased this rifle from collector in North Carolina , USA .

Collection

Excellent

Jackson
Mississippi
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

WF9369

Torre Annunziata

1898

1946

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Barrel: FAG 46, DL in an oval on the left side;
Large PO upside down on the right.

FAG 46.

This rifle has the long, old fashioned rifle sights.
An obvious rebuild, this seems to be an 1898 barrel on a much newer receiver and a like-new stock.
Bore like a mirror.

Collection

Excellent

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

1D8395

NK79

Terni

1898

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Segno Tiro Nazionale;
PG in oval next to Sengo Tiro Nazionale stamp on left chamber flat;
PO on right chamber flat.

Large, but very faint, illegible wood cartouche, left side buttstock above serial number.

ROCCA in a rectangle on left side of bolt striker/cocking piece.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Brownsville
Pennsylvania
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

II 2260

Terni

1899

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Collection

Very Good

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

VW7039

MN9175

Torre Annunziata

1900

Bottom

Bent

On left of barrel: DL in oval;
On right of barrel: PO ;
On underside of barrel: 1508, V, Crown;
Various DL stamps elsewhere (also on receiver, with crown).

A badly sporterized and now deactivated gun, with a non-matching beech stock from another rifle (FTR'ed in 1946, as the cartouche shows: FAT 1946 and PEL on left stock side).
Good finish and worksmanship, trigger marked MS in r

Collection

Unsafe

Heidelberg
GERMANY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

SM3854

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Tubato

PR, TUBATA over TERNI ;
5 different (looks like) acceptance marks:PG, MC, LA encircled.

An attempt was made to refinish the stock and the cartouches are faint.
Bluing is 80% and the bore Very Good.
Pitting is very light with surface rust over the entire weapon when first purchased.
Stock overall is Very Good+. Still in the process o

Collection

Good

Houston
Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

CK9045

Illegible

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Tubato

SG on barrel;
TRI (?) in circle on chamber;
Other stamps that are illegible.

Collection

Good

San Diego
California
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

MF9962

Terni

1910

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Segno Tiro Nazionale

Stock cartouches are suberb, and bear the date 12;
Stock also has an award plaque as in Roatti's il '91, p. 53: which reads:
Anno 1914, Tiro a Segno Nazionale-Gara, di Milano, Premio del Ministero dell' Istruzione.

Collection

Excellent

Wakefield
Massachusetts
USA

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

MG7349

Illegible

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Looks like SG in a round lozenge stamped on lower left side of receiver and repeated on lower left side of the barrel just in front of the receiver. Illegible proof on left side of receiver.

Looks like small box (maybe originally an E), and O stamped on left rear of stock just forward of the buttplate (now a recoil pad)

Looks like ME or MF in lozenge on bolt near where the bolt attaches to the receiver. Crown marking and adjacent illegible marking on bolt knob (proofs ?).

The rifle was sporterized and is actually in very good condition with the exception of the pitted bore.

Self-Defense

Good

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

MK1996

Illegible

Terni

1913

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

I believe this rifle was imported, by Century Arms, from Easten Europe in 1993.
It appears to have be stored very well or it has been refinished at some time.
It came to me packed in preservative inside and out.

Collection

Very Good

McKenney
Virginia
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

ML3651

Terni

1914

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

SG in oval;
Crown over coat of arms in oval on both left side of barrel after receiver;
AG on right side.

98% blue, wood VG, barrel GOOD+.

Collection

Very Good

Bad Feilnbach
GERMANY

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

YK3320

None

3422

Terni

1916

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Either a new stock was added or the original was cut down a few inches and varnished.
Lovely yellow or blond colored wood.
It apppears that the barrel was not touched.

Collection

Fair

Concrete
Washington
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

ZN7964

LH1256

Terni

1916

Terni
1922

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

SG inside an oval

Stylized PG in square.

CV in oval on top of bolt handle root

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

D8830

Mida Brescia

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

RP in an oval in barrel, triggerguard and reciever;
MIDA in small capital letters in an oval in the very center top of the receiver ring; AG on the right flat of the barrel, below the 17 date stamp.

RP in an oval in bolt;
The letters MIDA in a very small oval struck on the underside of the bolt handle root.

This MIDA Brescia rifle was found with 95% of its finish missing,
with very worn metal and old light rust pitting on barrel and receiver.
The stock has an old (?) dark red varnish finish overall.
There is no handguard or evidence that the rifle e

Collection

Fair

Boston
Massachusetts
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

E5214

Mida Brescia

AG and RP (inside a circle) next to a Crown inside a circle on chamber.

This gun is missing several parts but may be restored if possible (got the gun for free).

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

BH2673

None

Terni

1917

Fixed

Bottom

Bent

AG beside the 17;
SG inside an oval;
S(?) in front of the rear sight, and others.

LD in an oval on the bolt handle.

Collection

Good

Missouri
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

DH6963

Illegible

Terni

1917

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Collection

Very Good

Niagara Falls
New York
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

EI5894

1895

Terni

Bottom

Straight

A1 to the right of the year designation

PG on bolt handle

Rear sight missing, top wooden handguard missing, middle barrel band damaged badly, cleaning rod eye snapped off.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Racine
Wisconsin
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

EN2891

RE Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split lug bolt

Collection

Very Good

San Antonio
Texas
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

OL5086

Illegible

EL9080

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

SG in an oval on barrel at the receiver;
FA on barrel at chamber;
Crown and LA in a oval on receiver.

Rifle in Good+ condition.
Blueing very good all over with some pitting at the top of the barrel.
Bore took a very long time to clean out but is bright and rifling sharp.
Rifle came with a canvas sling marked NOBUCKL PATD 7/21/14 U.S.

Collection

Good

Georgia
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

PK1514

?F0952

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

The facets from left to right have: SG in a circle and a circled crown;
Second facet has PK 1514;
Third facet Terni , cal. 6.5;
Fourth facet has MADE ITALY and 17;
Fifth facet has AC;
Under th

Hunting

Good

Monticello
Arizona
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

QM77

Terni

1917

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Stock cartouche has Roma
Number 1922 also present;
There is a four digit number that is very faint and QM77 is stamped over.

Collection

Very Good

Kansas City
Missouri
USA

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

TH5901

None

Terni

1917

Adjustable

None

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale;
SG in circle on barrel.

SD in circle and crown on bolt along with crown over TNI in circle on bottom of bolt handle.

Collection

Good

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

TH5904

Terni

Adustable

Side (Rear only)

Segno Tiro Nazionale;
SG in a circle.

This gun is appears to be a M91 Fucile with the barrel cut down to 19 inches.
It still has the M91 Fucile sights (adjustable to 2000m). It is fitted with a M38 Fucile Corto stock with no handguard and bands.

Fucile

7.35x51 Carcano (?)

L1373

Mida Brescia

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Multiple RP's in oval stamps.

Little crown on bolt handle.

Collection

Unsafe

Amersfoort
HOLLAND

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

AK6760

Illegible

Terni

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Segno Tiro Nazionale
MADE ITALY and CAL. 6,5 on barrel facets.

Sporterized in Italy in the 60s by Riva and sold in the US as Suprema carbine (Based on info from D. Hobbs, 1960s ads from the American Rifleman, and the book The Gun). Stock thinned, cut 11cm ahead of rear band and stained dark brown.

Collection

Very Good

New Jersey
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

AN4973

1R7443

Terni

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

FP? on hex below date stamp along stock.

Collection

Good

St. Thomas
Ontario
CANADA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

BL6898

Illegible

RE Terni

1918

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Straight

AT on right side of chamber side of barrel.

Collection

Good

Alexandria
Indiana
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

CH2973

SK1639

1632

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Hunting

Good

Bloomsburg
Pennsylvania
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

CF3341

CF1028

3341

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

AT on barrel breech,
C52 on barrel breech and reciever,
SG in a circle on barrel breech,
a crown on barrel breech,
11, 15 & MC on reciever,
C 74 and 31 X under rear sights.

Hunting

Good

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

DM1223

EF4773

Terni

Torre Annunziata ;
1921

Adjustable

Straight

Split Lug

FF, Oval with shield on receiver.

Rifle actually rates Good-VG. Walnut stock with lots of minor dings.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Bloomfield
New York
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

DM8409

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split Lug Extractor

First facet: SG in oval;
5th facet: FP;
Every single part of the rifle is marked with BG stamp in oval or box;
Receiver marked with a five pointed star.

Left of the buttstock is a six edged box-but only the year is visible: 18;
Left side near the magazine is a small round marking - unfortunately details are not visible;
On the bottom of the stock 3 cm above the magazine a small E (E

Rifle comes with original sling.
Very good group-placement, even with Norma factory loads.

Collection

Excellent

Karlsruhe
GERMANY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

GM5292

None

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

SG in a circle, to the left of a crown in a circle opposite side of bolt handle.
Many odd letters and numbers up inside the adjustable sights.

13 on back of base of bolt handle.

Gun is very long ... will barely fit in my gun cabinet!

Collection

Good

Dickson
Tennessee
USA

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

1M6164

Terni

AT, S3 in circle, what appears to be horseshoe on chamber

Cartouche worn off, but has some numbers toward the bottom that are burned into the wood but they are really hard to make out, 6000 may be the last line.

12 5 7 stamped on bolt.

Rifle is 40 over all.

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

1M8150

Terni

Adjustable

Crest near the year.

Hexogonal cartouche reads FABBA D ARMI DI TERNI /

Original leather sling; Gun is in working condition

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

1S5079

Illegible

Terni

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

AT upside down below date on chamber;
SG in an oval below serial #.

Collection

Good

Farmerville
Louisiana
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

OR-L3814

Illegible

Roma

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Century Arms importation marks on muzzle.

This rifle was purchased from Hunter's Lodge for $60 (1995).
Advertised in Good condition, it was lacking a handguard, had a broken sear spring and significant pitting in areas normally covered by wood (i.e.

Collection

Fair

West Harrison
New York
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

OR-O7404

Roma

1918

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Split Lug Extractor

Small FA in rectangle on upper receiver side.

Small FA in rectangle on left stock.

Late war production, but with original (stained) beechwood stock.

Collection

Fair

Heidelberg
GERMANY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

OR-V1574

Roma

918

Terni
1946

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Barrel: MS, MB & 18;
Rear sight: C, N & OCR;
Trigger guard: TNI & L;
Follower: V;
Sear Bar: LZ;
Buttplate and front band: PG;
Rear band: Y

Left side of stock: PL

Bolt: TNI;
Cocking piece and safety: PG;
Firing pin: MR

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Excellent

Bologna
ITALY

Fucile

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

1T1387

Illegible

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

On the chamber end of the barrel above stock on left: SG or SC in laying oval;
A crown a standing oval;
Below, near the edge of the stock is an AT.

The back of the bolt behind the safety has an A then ROCCA in a long rectangle;
TNI with a crown above in an oval is on the bottom of the bolt.

The overall length is just under 40 inches and barrel length is c.19.25 inches.

Collection

Good

Knoxville
Tennessee
USA

Fucile

Mida Brescia

Adjustable

Bent

Split Lug

Hebrew markings;
AG

Collection

Fair

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

A1054

Illegible

Terni

1924

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Segno Tiro Nazionale

Collection

Fair

Aviano
Pordenone
ITALY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

G399

Terni

1930

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Segno Tiro Nazionale;
PL (Pietro Lorenzotti);
Oval with a domed shaped building (Terni Crown?).

Hunting

Very Good

Rush City
Minnesota
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

2G7465

CM7716

7465

Terni

1933

PL on the barrel by the chamber.

ALC on bottom of bolt.

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

2D230

2G4281

Terni

1934

XII

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Segno Tiro Nazionale;
PL in ellipse;
1NL in circle stamps.

Collection

Very Good

Broadview Heights
Ohio
USA

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

2I9046

Terni

1935

XIII

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

Fascist Year Markings

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Perfect

Milan
ITALY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

3467(?)

I3467

Terni

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Bottom

Straight

FP on right barrel facet.

Heidelberg
GERMANY

Fucile

6.5x52 Carcano

!B6488

Illegible

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale;
BL in oval on barrel and receiver; Faint crown in oval; JJ on right bottom barrel facet; Top 3 facets ground; 0 in diamond on trigger housing.

BV on safety;
Bolt knob has markings on it but are partially ground off.

Prefix to B on s/n appears as ! without the bottom dot. Appears to have a phosphated black finish instead of blue finish.

Collection

Very Good

Michigan
USA

Moschetto Cav.

C3329

Brescia

1899

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale
TA in oval.
A coat of arms.
PO on right side of breech.
VS in center of breech housing.

Self-Defense

Very Good

Racine
Wisconsin
USA

Moschetto

6.5x52 Carcano

O8297

Illegible

Brescia

1915

Fixed
Scope

None

Bent

A WWII bringback with some sporterizing done to it.

Hunting

Good

Keyser
West Virginia
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

P6497

Brescia

1916

Adjustable

Side

Bent

BL in a circle on top of receiver.

It appears as though this gun was reblued and the stock was refinished....the bolt holding on the bayonet is incorrect.

Collection

Very Good

USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

Q4380

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Side

PG on barrel base.

A WWII bring back.
It also has these stamps on various other locations:
PL in a circle,

RL in a circle,
AB in a circle,

TNI (I think) in a partial circle with a design,
the name ROCCA in a box, and the number 11 in a box.

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

4008

Brescia

1918

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Dual Target Triggers

Works like a charm. Ammo costs more than the gun!

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Los Angeles
California
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano (?)

T1997

AP746

Terni

1928

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Rifle was described as a WWII Veteran souvenier.

Collection

Very Good

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

A7546

None

Beretta Gardone

1935

XIII

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Split Lug Extractor

Fascist Year Markings;
PB on rear sight;
CA on bayonet, front cap and trigger gaurd;
Small circle with TNI under unknown image and an oval with crown over unknown image on left barrel facet;
Crown over R and unknown

PB on bolt.

No markings are left on stock becouse of refinishing!
Front stock end has hook on top of barrel strap.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Colbert
Georgia
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

D6024

Illegible

Gardone Val Trompia

1935

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings

Collection

Good

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

E7797

Terni

1935

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
AT on right side;
DL in rectangle on left side barrel over chamber.

Handguard missing, stock sanded and some markings obliterated.
This rifle is currently (14 Dec 1997) in inventory at the gunshop that I work at.

Collection

Good

Eagle River
Alaska
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

F6570

Gardone Val Trompia

1935

XIII

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
A crown over the RE.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Hearne
Texas
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

B9201

Terni

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Small PL in a box under serial number.

SALESI stamped in box on bolt.
G16 stamped in box under bolt handle.

Have bayonet but missing bayonet screw and sling.

Collection

Fair

Baltimore
Maryland
USA

Moschetto Cav.

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano (?)

C5385

R.E. Terni

XIV

Adjustable

Bent

Segno Tiro Natzionale;
Circle w/crown and TNI of left side of barrel base.

PA in circle stamped on top of buttplate.

PB stamped on bolt;
8 stamped on back side of safety;
FIVM in circle stamped on firing pin.

Purchased in the mid-70's for $45
The stock has been cut down to a length of 26.5 in. and the gun has an overall length of 36 in.
The recess for the butt end sling bar filled with a plate
Underside of front sight (i.e. the bayonet mount) remo

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

D1569

Beretta Gardone

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

E___

D1700

FNA Brescia

1936

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings
New serial number HR817

Original stampings removed. Remaining:
19__ X__
F.N__
BR_____
E____

Collection

Good

San Antonio
Texas
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

F9623

Terni

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

A crown above the RE TERNI stamp on the top of the barrel.
AT below the date stamp.
Below the serial is cirlce PL and beside that is a crowned shield.

ROCCA on the end of the bolt.

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

G2083

F7716

Terni

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings

Collection

Very Good

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

G5168

1610??

RE Terni

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

D stamped on sear, small Terni emblem stamped on receiver ring

Cartouche: Circular DARMIERI E. TERNI 1936.

Bolt number hard to read; V, PG (in box), W stamped above number on bolt.

Stock cracked, barrel very clean, no pitting, cannot tell if it has been rebuilt.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Atlanta
Georgia
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

G5404

Illegible

Gardone V.T.

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Small crown over R.F. (or R.E. ... light stamping).

Has bayonet.
Purchased for $50 US due to broken firing pin.
Replacement pin from Gun Parts. Corp.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Kentucky
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

H2357

None

Brescia

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Split Lug Extractor

Fascist Year Markings;
Serial number on receiver.

Cartouche is faint but reads: Gardone Val Trompia 1935A.

Rifle has old style bolt with extractor through locking lug.
Bore is in excelent condition.
Barrel is hand stamped Brescia , 1936 twice and is round.
This rifle was imported Century Arms International.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

New York
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

L358

Illegible

Gardone V.T.

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Segno Tiro Nazionale;
RE under crown on barrel.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Glen Head
New York
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

L1803

I9120

RE Terni

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings
Segno Tiro Nazionale
Left barrel base: PL in rectangle
Right barrel base: AT
Left receiver: PL in oval
Top barrel base: TNI under crown in circle and five pointed star
Trigger housing: CA

Unreadable cartouche

Safety face: SW
Base of bolt handle: N

Purchased from Springfield Sporters for $65.00.
Great shooting rifle, surprisingly accurate.

Collection

Good

Nicktown
Pennsylvania
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

L3988

None

Terni

1936

XIV

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
AT near date on breech.

A muzzle extension was added to the end of the barrel to bring it to legal barrel length after WW II.

Collection

Very Good

New York
USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

L7167

None

RE Terni

XIV

Adjustable

None

Bent

Fascist Year Markings

It appears that this rifle never had a front sling attachment, but it may have been filed off.
The place where the rear sling bar would be attached to the stock has been filled with wood putty.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

USA

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

1B1303

None

Terni

1937

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale

Hunting

Very Good

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

Beretta

1938

Moschetto Cav.

6.5x52 Carcano

E8310

Beretta Gardone

1938

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings;
Segno Tiro Nazionale;
Crown under letters RF

Collection

Good

Conover
North Carolina
USA

Moschetto T.S.

PG1481

Illegible

RE Terni

1897

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Split Lug

MDA on bolt.

Collection

Good

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

B1793

BE 3041

FNA Brescia

1898

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Barrel: TA, PO & 5079;
Trigger Guard: C;
Follower: MA;
Front Band and Sling Bar: C;
Receiver bottom: 5079, V & 8

Bolt: PB & CA;
Cocking piece: BL;
Safety: FG (possibly PG)

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Bologna
ITALY

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

E547

Brescia

1902

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Collection

Good

San Juan
Puerto Rico
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

H5917

H5811

2373

Brescia

1912

1940

Adjustable

Bent

Stock: Right side of butt marked Bavarja Poljce;FAG 40 below a crown on cheek side of butt.

23 on cocking peice.

Rifle appears to been updated to M91/28 specification. It has a muzzle extension.
The stock is unusual in that the butt swivel is a U shape and located further forward than normal,
and that the stock seems to be wider, in places, than normal

Collection

Very Good

New Jersey
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

M5602

Brescia

1914

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

A round, seal type marking, about the size of a silver dollar on left (cheek) side of the butt.

Purchased rifle for $10 at a gun show in late 60s.

Collection

Good

Montevallo
Alabama
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

S4283

Brescia

1915

1938

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale

The bottom of the barrel and reciever are stamped with what appears to be another serial number: D2439.
The top of the reciever and the left of the barrel (next to the STN) are stamped BL.
PF is stamped on the right side of the barrel under the date.

The stock cartouche SEZ FABBRICA----- GARDONE VT.
Under Gardone VT it is stamped RPARAZIONE-1938.
1 inch in front of the side sling mount in the butt is a square stamp with 8de.
The serial number is stamped on the bottom of the stock in front of the bottom sling swivel as well as in front of the butt plate both match the barrel number.

This has the same stock and bands as a 1928 model but still has the original TS front sight.

Collection

Good

McKenney
Virginia
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

T6222

1FP

Brescia

1916

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Letters BL inside a oval on barrel underneath the serial number.
The letters PS on the barrel above the date.
It says BRESCIA in between year & serial number.

BL on the bolt

Hunting

Good

Maryland
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

Z9187

AP9016

Brescia

1916

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Barrel has BB in an oval under serial number.

Stock cartouche is faint but appears to be a square parchment(?)in a circle;
Stamp at rear side swivel is a half circle (cut by swivel notch) w/TERNI-SEZ?? bordering.

Collection

Excellent

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AF4137

Brescia

1916

Adjustable

None

Bent

BL in an oval stamped on barrel.

PB, or possibly FB, stamped on mottom side of bolt.

Fair

Denver
Colorado
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AF8964

Brescia

1916

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Nickel/Chrome frontband, no upper handguard, no bayonet lug or mount and polished front sight band.
The bolt is high polish NI/CR.

Collection

Very Good

Oxnard
California
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AG194

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

PP in a square on left hand side of stock.

Collection

Very Good

Long Beach
California
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AG9694

None

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

BL left barrel lug. 943 on sight.
BL and what looks like RE with crown over top just front of breach.
TS on right barrel lug. BL and A on right of sight.
FB back of trigger guard.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Beverly
Massachusetts
USA

Moschetto T.S.

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

AI9394

None

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

None

Bent

The stock has been cutdown and the butt plate replaced with rubber pad.
No stamps on the butt.
The sling bar on the butt has been filled in and the front one is gone.
Stock has been refinished.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Harwinton
Connecticut
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AO8573

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Side

Bent

On chamber end of barrel, letters PS;
BL in oval appears on barrel, and receiver.

BLstamp (in oval).

Transverse bayonet Lug, Forend hook on nosecap.
Rear sight is graduated to 1500m.

Collection

Good

Wisconsin
USA

Moschetto T.S

AP9950

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Circle with BL on barrel and receiver.
PS on barrel flat.
Circle with Crown & M on barrel.
Square with PG on bolt barrel.
MADE IN ITALY on top of receiver.

Crown on bolt knob.
Square with PG on bolt and cocking piece.

1917 date appears to be a newer stamp than the SN and other numbers. Walnut stock. All early configuration other than forend left side swivel.

Collection

Very Good

New York
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AQ1499

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

BL in circle on top of reciever ring and on left side of barrel breach below serial number.

Stamped crown on the top of the ball of the bolt handle;
PH in box and CA stamped on underside of bolt handle.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AR5811

2373

Brescia

1917

FAT 1947

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

FAT 1947 on barrel base top right flat;
Barrel, receiver and rear sight show a BL in an oval proofmark which is sharper than the others, which may be related to the 1947 rework;
Production numbers under barrel and receiver: 4124

The stock has a different serial number (not legible) covered by the matching serial number.
The stock was repaired, the bottom swivels eliminated (the mount holes in the stock are professionally filled)
and a re-used bolt with non-matching number p

Collection

Excellent

New Jersey
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AS9747

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Collection

Very Good

Willimantic
Connecticut
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AT929

2357

Brescia

1917

Terni
1948

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale

Beech stock with a oval stamp reading FIAT 1948.

Rifle has a swivel on the left butt, yet no side swivel in front.
It does have two swivels on bottom.
Rifle has a cleaning rod. In better condition than very good.
Actually looks quite nice, but due to some neglect the finish has become brown in

Collection

Very Good

Homestead
Florida
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AT4155

1G5980

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

C288 on underside of rear sight leaf;
PL in oval on top of chamber an left chamber flat;
Crown over a sheild in oval on left chamber flat.

Round, illegible stock cartouche on left side buttstock, above serial#.

PG in rectangle on bolt handle root above serial #;
Same stamp on rear flat of root;
RP on top of cocking piece.

Transverse bayonet lug, small lugs on top and bottom of barrel,
ahead of front sight, top lug joined into front sight base.

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Very Good

Brownsville
Pennsylvania
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

AV4755

Brescia

1917

Adjustable

Side

Bent

PS on the first octogon flat before date.

Bolt handle knob has a crown;
Bolt handle root has a TN with a crown in a circle, 8, C and PL in a circle.

Hunting

Fair

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BB5383

Brescia

1917

The receiver is marked Made in Italy;
On the upper right side barrel flat it is marked PS in large letters;
On the upper left side flat there is an oval around BL, crossed rifles under a target, and what appears to be a horsesho

Walnut stock.

Moschetto T.S.

BB8163

Brescia

1918

Fixed

Bottom & Side

Bent

There was a symbol on the stock side which has been removed with wood stain the outline resembels an upside down bakers hat and the number 714 in front of the sites.

Collection

Good

Wilmington ; Delaware ; USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BC1510

Brescia

1918

Roma

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

BL in oval on barrel and receiver;
Faint crown in oval with letters under;
Rear sight has 690 stamped on it.

Cocking piece: S, HA; Bolt handle base has HA, 9 or 6 in circle, 16 in circle.

Has lateral bayonet lug and special front sling swivel as per 1900 modification.
Rear sling swivel removed and inletted.
End of trigger bent upwards.

Collection

Very Good

Michigan ; USA

Moschetto T.S.

Unknown

BG7977

Brescia

1918

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Split Lug Extractor

Top of receiver, above chamber, the letters B and ? in circle;
Bottom of barrel stamped 1 over 5, 4 over a '7.

Lower bayonet lug has been cut off;
Unknown how gun entered the USA ... possibly as a war souvenir, after WW II occupation.
No barrel band.

Collection

Fair

Pennsylvania
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BG8143

Brescia

1918

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Letters BL on barrel below serial # & receiver.

This T.S. has the horizontal bayonet mounting bar.
It has been professionally reblued at some point.
No obvious rebuilt stamps.
Stock has wooden filler where the underside sling loop was once.

Collection

Good

Niagara Falls
New York
USA

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BG9529

Brescia

1918

Terni
1948

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Collection

Good

Charlottesville
Virginia
USA

Moschetto Balilla

2810 A

None

FNA Brescia

1931

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Has some kind of large crested marking with an O on middle left and
a N top right and B bottom right of crest within a square.
Has 501 on trigger guard.

Brass placque on left side of butt saying MEDAGLIADORO over scripted word Cimmarrusti.

Collection

Very Good

Michigan ; USA

Has folding bayonet and leather sling. No clip or cleaning rod, perfect bore.

Moschetto Balilla

6,5 Ridotto (?)

C0207

None

Brescia

1931

Adjustable

Side

Bent

O.N.B. (Opera Nazionale Balilla).

Moschetto Balilla (Carbine Youth Model)

Collection

Excellent

Roma
ITALY

Moschetto Balilla

None

36486

1938

XVI

Adjustable

Side

Bent

Fascist Year Markings

GIL stamp on receiver; F.M.B./Grazian Verona at base of barrel, above the date.

Most parts made of brass alloy, painted black if visible.
They indeed look similar to blued steel.
The only steel parts are the barrel, bolt stop, extractor, bolt spring and sear pin.
Cleaning rod missing.
Traces of bore cleaning fluid on the

Collection

Very Good

New Jersey ; USA

Moschetto Balilla

YQ6881

670?

FNA-B

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Collection

Very Good

Moschetto Balilla

GRAZIAN VERONA

1940

XVII

FMB on right side of barrel and GILat top center;
7 on fold out sight.

Collavdo Verona(?) within circle on left;
Circle with faint lettering and 48000 heavily stamped within writing and circle on right.

With bayonet and two cleaning rod in butt.

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

UZ5704

Illegible

Torre Annunziata

898

Terni
25

Adjustable

Bent

On right barrel facet: PO ;
On left facet: PL in oval, FARE 25 TERNI as rebuilding stamp.

Seen at a gunshow and reported in poor condition.

Fair

Ueberlingen
GERMANY

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

KW7315

Terni

1903

Terni
1925

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale;
Austrian capture mark (AZF) on receiver.

Stock refinished. Missing handguard. V.G.-Exc. bore.

Collection

Good

Verona
Virginia
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

B9889

NH5525

Mida Brescia

1917

Terni
25

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Stepped M91/24 Barrel

Original M91 stock shortened and reshaped to TS configuration. The wood grain was then sealed, but not varnished. M91 buttplate. The stepped barrel rests on a small metal plate under the nosecap, since the M91 barrel stock cutout is too deep for the stepped down barrel.

Collection

Very Good

New Jersey
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5X52 Carcano

DF2734

Terni

Terni 25

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

FP on far right barrel facet; Segno Tiro Nazionale , SG in circle and a crown on top of a broken crest on far left barrel facet.

War Trophy obtained in 1943 from another US soldier; Cleaning rod is missing.

Collection

Very Good

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

EF8298

Terni

1917

Terni
1927

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

FARE 27 TERNI

Collection

Good

Lincoln
Nebraska
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

RH9805

8266

Terni

1917

Terni
1926

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

SG, AB stamped on barrel.

Stamp on stock between side sling and butt plate still visable but not readable.

Collection

Very Good

McKenney
Virginia
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

RL6628

Terni

1917

Terni
1928

Fixed

Bottom & Side

Bent

Bavaria Rural Police;
CIV GUARD.

A late M91/24 conversion, before production of M91/28's began.
This gun is currently missing the adjustable leaf of the rear sight.

Collection

Good

Denver
Colorado
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

Sporterized

6.5x52 Carcano

C6016

Roma

918

Terni
1927

Adjustable

Circle with SM in it (Inspector's mark);
5 pointed star ( Terni reconditioning mark);
FARE TERNI 27 in circle.

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

H6366

Mida Brescia

Brescia
FARE 1925

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Barrel: FG, 18 & RP;
Rear sight: Z, 2, 8Z, 72L & 37T;
Follower: PG;
Sear Bar: PA;
Buttplate: PAX;
Front band: PG;
Sling bar: PG & .3;
Reciever: TERNI ;
Bottom of Barrel: 1676 & L1F106

On inside of stock with receiver/barrel: V, LA, V & G

Bolt: PB;
Cocking Piece: CT, BL;
Retainer Pin: BLA;
Safety: Z & PG;
Firing Pin: 6 CT

Practice Shooting/Plinking

Good

Bologna
ITALY

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

Z7622

A5475

Terni

1918

Terni
1928

Adjustable

Bottom

Bent

Segno Tiro Nazionale

A late M91/24 conversion, before production of M91/28's began.

Collection

Very Good

Niagara Falls
New York
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BM2861

Illegible

Terni

Terni
28

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Bavaria Police;
CIV GUARD.

Barvarian Rural Police CIV GUARD is on the magazine (Left side) rather than Receiver.

Collection

Good

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

BN2539

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

Star proofmark near date on barrel.

Oval stamp on left side of stock, not legible (probably rework stamp from Terni );
Old s/n under current s/n on stock.

Walnut Stock. Stepped barrel.

Collection

Perfect

New Jersey
USA

91/24

Moschetto T.S.

6.5x52 Carcano

LE6016

G9212

Terni

Adjustable

Bottom & Side

Bent

91/24 Conversion Stamps

Stock was sanded and refinished.
Cleaning rod is missing and the bottom swivel is only on the butt.

Collection

Good

Willimantic
Connecticut
USA

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