todd vaughan

Upon realizing that this particular Senior Citizen would RETALIATE with the Greatest 20 second lesson of his entire life, he Chickened Out.

Apparently he ran out of helpless children to attack (he most likely ATE them ALL) he has turned to attacking Women.

And, to think that for the past 50 years we were told to fear Commies/Terrorists.

While the REAL enemies of America have been here all the time in the form of todd vaughan & his ILK.

TOAD'S LATEST STUPIDITY

On 4 May, 17:26, "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 6:07 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:

> > > Oswald very likely shot JFK while wearing only his white T-shirt. He
> > > quickly put on the rust-brown shirt after stashing the rifle (not
> > > bothering to button it up or tuck it in)--and LHO probably also used
> > > the shirt as a fingerprint-wiping rag on his way toward the stairs.
>
> > That THEORY (might?) be plausible IF IF the witnesses had described
> > the light colored shirt of the gunman as being a BUTTON FRONT shirt.
> > T- shirts are not button front shirts.
>
> You once again leave out the fact the the collar of the t-shirt LHO
> was wearing was worn and steteched and seen from a distance could have
> given the impression that it was an open, button-down type of collar.
>
> > To further shoot down your
> > THEORY Howard Brennan said that the gunmans trousers were a "shade
> > LIGHTER" than the light colored shirt of the gunman.
>
> Hmm, do you allow for the possibility that Brennan could have been
> wrong?
>
>
>
> > Oswald was wearing DARK GRAY trousers.
>
> > > How in the world could "fresh" fibers from that shirt--or one just
> > > like it--get themselves stuck under the butt plate, sans LHO utilizing
> > > the shirt as a rag to wipe prints?
>
> > This is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.... If oswald had
> > wiped down the Carcano that was found on the 6th floor with his shirt
> > that rough finish rifle would have had fibers all over it.
>
> And you know this because you've done a micro study of the surface of
> the carcano right, and an experiment with the actual carcano and the
> actual shirt, right, detailing every nook and cranny that might catch
> fibers?
>
> Could you post your report on that study that you did?
>
>
>
> > > I suppose it's POSSIBLE that fibers could get jammed into the rifle
> > > (somehow) via some other scenario -- but I'm still searching for a
> > > more-reasonable scenario than the one I just laid out....and haven't
> > > found it yet.
>
> > If you were familiar with the FACTS....You'd know that the FBI said
> > the fibers they found clinging to the buttplate of the rifle matched
> > the shirt that Oswald was wearing AT THE TIME OF HIS ARREST.
>
> Yup, which was the shirt he wore earlier in the day.
>
> >That's
> > NOT the shirt he was wearing at the TSBD that morning, and at the time
> > of the shooting.
>
> And you know this how?
>
> > He changed his shirt in his room a couple of minutes
> > after 1:00pm.
>
> He didn"t begin telling this story until AFTER the DPD took the shirt
> from his as evidence.

Toad, You are either a bare faced liar, or an ignoramus. Hosty
attended ONLY the FIRST interrogation of Oswald.....That
interrogation session started at 3:15, 11 / 22 / 63. Hosty wrote in
his report for that session that Oswald told them he went home and
changed his clothes.

toad screws up AGAIN....

> Coming from one who wrote a NOVEL.

No matter whether you agree or don't agree with the content and/or
conclusions put forth in Jean's book, any reasonable and intelligent
person knows that it is not a "novel". That you suggest that it is
just serves to reveal the serious flaws in your reasoning skills and
overall basic intelligence.

Moreover, I'm willing to bet that you've never even read her book,
cover to cover.

By his own admission todd vaughan assisted Dale Myers in the making of Dale Myers' CARTOON titled "Secrets of a Homicide".

Which is an "Animated" Computer generated rendition of what a Warren Commission Supporter Thinks happened.

a. alt.assassinations.jfk Operated by Marquette Professor John McAdams who believes/teaches Lone Assassin "Theory" and, CENSORS what can be posted on his newsgroup. One can also post pictures there.

The charter for this group forbids any/all personal attacks against other posters. "UNTIL LATELY".

When I posted information of Conspiracy on the Newsgroups, toad would Deny that it was True.

When I "scanned" any page from the 26 volumes to post for Proof. He chose NOT to address it.

I developed a website to make it Easier to show "Official Records" for "Credibility Purposes".

My website stated that witness Lee J. Bowers saw 2 men behind the fence. Saw some kind of commotion like a flash of light/puff of smoke Then Run and, climb onto a freight train. Bowers STOPPED the train & Called Police. The Police arrested men from that train.

The Latest aspect vaughan Denies is the "Fact" that Bowers states he saw the men "Run from the Fence". vaughan REPEATEDLY asked for Proof.

Before I could find that Proof among my records, another poster named curtjester1 Graciously posted that PROOF.

> >From Dave Perry article:
> >
> > In 1967 another friend and fellow employee of Bowers, James R. Sterling
> > gave a statement to Gary Sanders of Jim Garrison's staff. Sterling said
> > Bowers ". . . observed two men running from behind the fence. They ran
> > up to a car parked behind the Pergola, opened the trunk and placed
> > something in it and then closed the trunk. The two men then drove the
> > car away in somewhat of a peculiar method." In this rendition, no
> > mention is made that Bowers witnessed the actual shooting.

I have to move all of toad' vaughan's screw-up LIES from the "FRICK 'N FRACK page to HERE. Starting with this one from the Newsgroups.

On 10 Apr, 12:16, "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 12:42 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > You're Assuming it was disassembled rifle there.
>
> > Show us how a 34.8 rifle fits into a 27 inch bag?
>
> > Show us how a "well oiled rifle" broken down leaves NO oil in the 27 inch
> > bag?
>
> You're such an amature, Tomnln.

What was reported as being "well oiled" was the firing pin and
spring.
Both are housed inside of the bolt of the rifle. In an assembled or
dissassembled state, the bolt is not exposed and would not have
transfered any oil to the bag.

WALT REPLIED>>>

Here's what Stombaugh said concerning the oily conditon of the
rifle........From the W.R.

In fact, most of the fibers Stombaugh found were either adhering to
greasy, oily deposits or were jammed down into crevices, and were so
dirty, old, and fragmented that he could not even determine what type
of fibers they were

Looks like ya got caught in another lie Todd....

Walt

TOAD GOT BUSTED AGAIN: (Below)

The Warren Report was NOT allowed as Evidence into the Clay Shaw Trial because it was Ruled as "Hearsay" by a Superior Court Judge Aloysius Haggerty.

While 90% of the American people reject the conclusions of the Warren Report, here are some examples of the 10% debating tactics.

When the WCR Defenders are Losing the discussion of evidence/testimony they resort to "Personal Attacks"

When they encounter someone who can Out-Insult them, they resort to Attacking Wives by Name.

I mention it because toad is always pointing out typo's rather than discuss Official Records.

> Because a woman came up to him and said "They are shooting the
> President from the bushes."
=====================================================================
> Smith said he himself had no idea where the shots came from.

THAT Eliminates the 6th floor window Directly above him. Also see Report Below. about WHERE the shots came from.
=====================================================================

Look for this one on the website.
It's a Classic.

"tomnln" <tomnln@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
> WATCH THE SUCKER S-I-N-K FOLKS
>
> You're sinking as Low as the WCR that was Thrown outta a U S Court Room
> Trial.
>
> RULED as "HEARSAY".
>
> Here's MORE....at the Bottom.
> I want people to read the shit you post.
>
>
> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154560818.801243.144130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> tomnln wrote:
>>> Produce proof Oswald wore T-Shirt ONLY?
>>>
>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/
>>
>>
>> Never said I had proof, did I?
>>
>> It's what we who are rational, thinking people call a "suggestion".
>>
>> I also "suggest" that you seek professional help.
>>
>> Idiot.

The Warren Report was NOT allowed as Evidence into the Clay Shaw Trial because it was Ruled "Hearsay" by a Superior Court Judge Aloysius Haggerty.

While 90% of the American people reject the conclusions of the Warren Report, here are some examples of the 10% debating tactics.

When the WCR Defenders are Losing the discussion of evidence/testimony they resort to "personal Attacks"

When they encounter someone who can Out-Insult them, they resort to Attacking Wives by Name.

.
"Ben Holmes" <bnholmes@rain.org> wrote in message
news:dp4j0a02luj@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> Not very smart, are you?
>
>
> In article <1135985353.881530.14200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Todd W.
> Vaughan says...
>>
>>Ben,
>>
>>I never said I was in Tomnln's home, nor did I say I had connections to
>>him.
>>
>>I just said the Jerk Store called for him.
>>
>>Your powers of deduction have been upgraded to hideous.
>>
>>Oh, and the Jerk Store just called for you.
>>
>>Todd
>>
>

Ø Tomnln,
>
> Still too much of a coward to remove the lies from your own web page.
>
> You'd rather spread lies about what Lee Bowers saw.
>
> You're a piece of garbage.
>
> Todd

Ø Tom,
>
>>Fritz is also the man who said "I took no notes".<
>
> And you're the one who said Lee Bowers saw the two men by the fence run
> away and jump onto a railroad car.
>
> Liar.
>
> Todd
>

Ø ===============================================================================

> Here's a little known fact for you to think about once you sober up:
> not only is Lee Bowers not on record as ever saying that he saw anyone
> running from behind the fence and jumping onto a box car, he's on
> record as saying that he saw no strangers behind the fence at the time
> of the shooting.
>
> Now, put down the crack pipe and see if you can come up with an
> intelligent reply for a change.
>
> Todd
>=======================================================================

"Ben Holmes" <bnholmes@rain.org> wrote in message
news:dp4j0a02luj@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> Not very smart, are you?
>
>
> In article <1135985353.881530.14200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Todd W.
> Vaughan says...
>>
>>Ben,
>>
>>I never said I was in Tomnln's home, nor did I say I had connections to
>>him.
>>
>>I just said the Jerk Store called for him.
>>
>>Your powers of deduction have been upgraded to hideous.
>>
>>Oh, and the Jerk Store just called for you.
>>
>>Todd
>>
>

Ø Tomnln,
>
> Still too much of a coward to remove the lies from your own web page.
>
> You'd rather spread lies about what Lee Bowers saw.
>
> You're a piece of garbage.
>
> Todd

Ø Tom,
>
>>Fritz is also the man who said "I took no notes".<
>
> And you're the one who said Lee Bowers saw the two men by the fence run
> away and jump onto a railroad car.
>
> Liar.
>
> Todd
>

Ø ===============================================================================

Hey Todd;

Are you Really sure that you want these insults to include OUR Wives????

Are you REALLY Sure???

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137125419.789151.8650@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ben,
>
> You were the first oversized asshole to jump on the Tomnln "Paraffin
> test at 2:50" bandwagon.
>
> You make me want to vomit all over Tomnln's wife Ellen.
>
> Todd

HERE's ANOTHER
.
"Ben Holmes" <bnholmes@rain.org> wrote in message
news:dp4j0a02luj@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> Not very smart, are you?
>
>
> In article <1135985353.881530.14200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Todd W.
> Vaughan says...
>>
>>Ben,
>>
>>I never said I was in Tomnln's home, nor did I say I had connections to
>>him.
>>
>>I just said the Jerk Store called for him.
>>
>>Your powers of deduction have been upgraded to hideous.
>>
>>Oh, and the Jerk Store just called for you.
>>
>>Todd
>>
>

HERE's ANOTHER.....
toad;
You've said Bowers did NOT say he saw 3 men jump into a freight train.

http://whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm

The official report at the bottom Proves your a LIAR.

All these posts and you STILL haven't addressed this.     P-H-O-N-Y
F-E-L-O-N     L-I-A-R

The official Report proves my point   see below

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154018284.529108.37000@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> tomnln wrote:
>> toad;
>> You've said Bowers did NOT say he saw 3 men jump into a freight train.
>>
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm
>>
>> The official report at the bottom Proves your a LIAR.
>>
>> All these posts and you STILL haven't addressed this. P-H-O-N-Y
>> F-E-L-O-N L-I-A-R
>>
>
>
>
> I see you're not man enough to support your claim.
>
> Ellen sure picked a winner.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153972481.225654.175180@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> > Tomnln,
>> >
>> > Just recently you've claimed that Lee Bowers said that he saw 3 men run
>> >
>> > from the picket fence and climb into a freight train.
>> >
>> > Please provide just one citation where Lee Bowers said he saw someone,
>> > anyone, run from behind the stockade fence after the shooting.
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >

http://whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm

Here is the Proof that you Lied.

http://whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm

1-29-06

>
> Tom, Bower never, ever, said the 2 men ran & jumped into a railway
> car".
>
> Here's what Bowers said about the two men:
>

1-23-06

>
> Tom, Bower never, ever, said the 2 men ran & jumped into a railway
> car".
>

1-26-06

>
> Tom, Bower never, ever, said the 2 men ran & jumped into a railway
> car".
>

1-26-06

>
> Tom, Bower never, ever, said the 2 men ran & jumped into a railway
> car".
>

1-27-06

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138344226.756622.23800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Ø Tomnln,
>
> Still too much of a coward to remove the lies from your own web page.
>
> You'd rather spread lies about what Lee Bowers saw.
>
> You're a piece of garbage.
>
> Todd

1-27-06

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138342959.774799.85720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Ø Tomnln,
>
>>Messing with Evidence in ANY form is a FELONY.<
>

=========================================================================

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138396174.871680.107940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Ø Tom,
>
>>Fritz is also the man who said "I took no notes".<
>
> And you're the one who said Lee Bowers saw the two men by the fence run
> away and jump onto a railroad car.
>
> Liar.
>
> Todd
>

Ø
===============================================================================

1-27-06

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138405572.438455.9660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tomnln,
>
>>It's you and your Ilk who have "Pirated" the American Justice System. <
>
> It's you who's blatantly lied on your web site.
>
> Lee Bowers NEVER claimed that the two men he saw near the fence ran
> away, nor did he say that either one of them jumped on a railroad car.
>
> You made this up, didn't you?
>
> Todd
>

2-1-06

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1138833176.281512.204490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Tom,
>
> Let me ask you a question.
>
> Where in the record in this case does Lee Bowers claim that he saw the
> two men near the fence run away and get onto a railway car?
>
> Either you have a source or you are a liar.
>
> Which is it?
>
> Todd
>

2-20-06

> Here's a little known fact for you to think about once you sober up:
> not only is Lee Bowers not on record as ever saying that he saw anyone
> running from behind the fence and jumping onto a box car, he's on
> record as saying that he saw no strangers behind the fence at the time
> of the shooting.
>
> Now, put down the crack pipe and see if you can come up with an
> intelligent reply for a change.
>
> Todd
>=======================================================================
HERE's ANOTHER....

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154460886.817053.72580@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> tomnln wrote:
>> Right Here toad; http://whokilledjfk.net/
>>
>>
>> Unless you wanna call the Bowere/FBI/DPD Liars also.
>>
>> That's what you do with Everyone who makes you look like a FOOL.
>>
>>
>
>
> Fool,
>
> Let's set the record straight. What I REPEATEDLY called you out on was
> your TOTAL CLAIM that Bowers saw 2 men run from the fence and jump onto
> a train.
>
> I examined the record in the case and found no indication whatsoever of
> Bowers himself ever saying...
>
> A.) that he ever saw 2 men run from the fence...
>
> or
>
> B.) that he ever saw anyone jump onto a train.
>
> That record remains intact. Even now.
>
> Now, you've recently posted an FBI document on your silly amateurish
> website where, a whopping 29 years after the fact, a 2nd party, DPD
> Officer Wise, told the FBI that "someone" in the tower said they saw 3
> men jump onto the train. OK, Tom, MAYBE Wise isn't embellishing his
> story and MAYBE that "someone" WAS in fact Bowers, and MAYBE he really
> saw 3 men jump onto the train (he stopped it after all). However, there
> is still NO RECORD of Bowers himself ever saying that is why he stopped
> the train. Further, EVEN WHEN HE WAS SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING WHY HE
> STOPPED THE TRAIN WITH MARK LANE, ONLY 3 OR 4 YEARS AFTER THE EVENT,
> BOWERS SAID NOTHING OF THE SORT!
>
> Does that mean anything to you? Or are you, as I suspect, for good
> reason, completely brain dead?
>
> Now, moving on, the other part of your claim was that "Bowers saw 2
> men" (later you added a 3rd man) run from the fence. But the document
> you posted on your website says nothing of the sort! And there is
> nothing in the record that supports your claim.
>
> You lied, didn't you?
>
> You also claimed that the document you posted was a DPD report, when in
> fact it is an FBI report, and you also claimed that the fence was
> "several hundred yards" away from the stockade fence. It is not. It's
> 150 to 250 feet or so away. From this I conclude, rightly so I might
> add, that you really have no clue as to what is going on, and very
> little credibility.
>
> As for your query as to "where they (the tramps) came from", in the
> real world in which I live (which you are obviously not a part of) the
> train tracks do not begin and end only where they are nearest the
> stockade fence. Therefore the tramps could have jumped on the train at
> any point along the length of the tracks. That you can't figure that
> out, and that you refuse to offer it as an explanation, speaks volumes
> about your lack of both intelligence and honesty.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1154366571.893169.71750@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> Hi toad;
>> >> You said Bowers Never said he saw 3 men climb into a freight car.
>> >
>> >
>> > Do you have a document where Bowers says otherwise?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I posted Official Proof that you Lied HERE...
>> >> http://whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm
>> >>
>> >> Would you like to address these Official Records?
>> >> http://whokilledjfk.net/
>> >>

FINALLY;

Todd Finally admits that evidence was CHANGED.
SEE BELOW.

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137972148.595441.323590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Tomnln,
>
> The only person misrepresenting the facts is you.
>
> You can post the Gregory Exhibit a hundred times if you like. Knock
> yourself out.
**********************************************************************
> BUT I ALREADY KNOW what the diagram says. I have the 26 volumes. I know
> that the typed Entry and Exit are crossed out and changed by hand.
**********************************************************************
> This is not NEWS (except for you apparently).
>
> The real issue is WHY. Why was it changed on the diagram?
>
> Jean explained that for you. Quite clearly.
>
> But you ignore that.
>
> Yet you claim to want to discuss "evidence/testimony" in this case.
>
> BUT EVERY TIME SOMEONE TRIES TO DISCUSS "EVIDENCE/TESTIMONY" WITH YOU,
> YOU DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO PARTICIPOATE IN THE DISCUSSION!
>
> I find it quite twisted.
>
> You're a joke, Tomnln. And I think most people can see that.
>
> Now, if you want to discuss the JBC wrist wound with me, fine, let's do
> it. I'll show you why the entry wound in on the back of the wrist,
> exactly as the diagram was changed to correct.
>
> Todd
>

ANOTHER LIE FROM TOAD;

Official Record from J. Edgar Hoover proving my statement will be posted on
alt.binaries.pictures
under heading TOAD VAUGHAN, LIAR.

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155584893.194022.81210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> tomnln wrote:
>> Did the gov't Transpose frames 314-315 to give the impression the head
>> went
>> forward?
>>
>> (YES)
>
>
>
> NO.
>
> Anyone can see from the bit of the next frame visible at the top of
> each frame reproduction that the reversal didn't hide anything.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> toad STILL supports Felons.
>
>
> Ellen still hates Tom, secretly.

>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155578949.286108.145780@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Phil Ossofee wrote:
>> >> BACK AND TO THE LEFT BACK AND TO THE LEFT BACK AND TO THE LEFT NOT
>> >> FORWARD AND TO THE LEFT BACK AND TO THE LEFT BACK AND TO THE LEFT.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did the head first move forward, Phil?
>> >
>

Only after they transposed frames 314-315. As shown in Official Record above.

At one point toad said threy didn't perform Paraffin tests on Oswald until 9:39 p.m.

========================================================================
>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155649964.486314.217520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> TOAD;
>> >> Are you Denying those people reported what I said they reported???
>> >
>> >
>> > No, I am not, nor did I say I was, you blubbering idiot.
>> >
>> > I asked you if you had "Ever talked) to Kantor or Kilduff, Tomnln, and
>> > see what they had to say about this?"
>> >
>> > I'm not sure Kantor "reported" that (i.e. that he had it published as
>> > part of a story), but it was in his notes. I interviewed Kantor in the
>> > mid 1990, just before he died. He didn't arrive at Parkland until well
>> > after JFK was taken in, so he certainly didn't see the wound - he
>> > probably got his description from his watching Kilduff point to his
>> > right temple at the press conference.
>> >
>> > Same for Kiker. I didn't interview him, but he was on the same Press
>> > Bus as Kantor so without a doubt he arrived after JFK was taken inside.
>> > A photograph in POP shows him taking notes outside of Parkland in the
>> > emergency room parking lot.
>> >
>> > The funny thing about Kilduff is, and you would know this if you had
>> > done your research, Kilduff thinks the head wound was on the LEFT side
>> > of the head (see High Treason 2, I think). So how reliable of a witness
>> > does that make him? Also, when I interviewed him in the mid 1990's, he
>> > said the entire LEFT forehead/side of the head looked like "ground
>> > hamburger" and that it was a large wound. I asked him if he saw a entry
>> > wound in the right temple, and he said no. He was sure the wound was on
>> > the left side of the head.
>> >
>> > So much for the 3 Ks (Kantor, Kiker, and Kilduff).
>> >
>> > As for Hurchel Jacks, I'd have to check, but I don't think he said he
>> > saw a specific entry wound, just a wound. If you have something
>> > different, post it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Want me to Prove ANOTHER Lie by you???
>> >>
>> >> Confirm or, deny.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1155584355.759261.137970@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> >> Entrance to Right Temple also reported by 4 others.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Douglas Kiker.
>> >> >> Seth Kantor.
>> >> >> Malcolm Kilduff.
>> >> >> Hurchel Jacks.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ever talk to Kantor or Kilduff, Tomnln, and see what they had to
>> >> > sayabout this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Ever discuss "evidence and testimony"with them?
>> >> >
>> >> > Or are you just an "armchair" researcher?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <lazuli777@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1467-44E0C98B-666@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>> >> >> > Also, don't you lone nutters find it just a little bit curious that
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > main Doctors who saw JFK at Parkland-Dr. Clark, Perry, McClelland,
>> >> >> > Carrico, Peters-none of them saw any gaping exit wound in the front
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the head, let alone the massive damage as seen in the Z Film to this
>> >> >> > area. There was a small entrance wound near the hairline high in
>> >> >> > temple
>> >> >> > area as seen by Dr. Crenshaw, James Jenkins & X-Ray Tech Jerrol
>> >> >> > Custer
>> >> >> > at bethesda and Dennis David from suppressed pictures, but the
>> >> >> > afforementioned Parkland Experts only saw a gaping wound in the
>> >> >> > occipital, far too large for an entrance.

SEE BELOW;

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1155680733.555258.272680@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>
> tomnln wrote:
>> MIDDLE POST;
>>
>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155665332.141297.197720@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> Thank You Sincerly for bringing it up Again Toad.
>> >>
>> >> Here is page 87 from Volume VI of Bowers' testimony.......
>> >>
>> >>                                          *******************************
>> >> Mr. BALL. Now, were there any people standing on the high side---high
>> >> ground between your tower and where Elm Street goes down under the
>> >> underpass
>> >> toward the mouth of the underpass?
>> >>      Mr. BOWERS. Directly in line, towards the mouth of the underpass,
>> >> there
>> >> were two men. One man, middle-aged, or slightly older, fairly heavy-set,
>> >> in
>> >> a white shirt, fairly dark trousers. Another younger man, about
>> >> midtwenties, in either a plaid shirt or plaid coat or jacket.
>> >> Mr. BALL.. Were they standing together or standing separately?
>> >> Mr. BOWERS. They were standing within 10 or 15 feet of each other, and
>> >> gave
>> >> no appearance of being together, as far as I knew.
>> >> Mr. BALL. In what direction were they facing?
>> >>      Mr. BOWERS. They were facing and looking up towards Main and
>> >> Houston,
>> >> and following the caravan as it came down.
>> >> Mr. BALL. Did you see anyone standing on the triple underpass?
>> >>      Mr. BOWERS. On the triple underpass, there were two policemen. One
>> >> facing each direction, both east and west. There was one railroad
>> >> employee,
>> >> a signal man there with the Union Terminal Co., and two welders that
>> >> worked
>> >> for the Fort Worth Welding firm, and there was also a laborer's assistant
>> >> furnished by the railroad to these welders.
>> >> Mr. BALL. You saw those before the President came by, you saw those
>> >> people?
>> >> Mr. BOWERS. Yes; they were there before 'and after.
>> >> Mr. BALL. And were they standing on the triple underpass?
>> >>      Mr. BOWERS. Yes; they were standing on top of it facing towards
>> >> Houston
>> >> Street, all except, of course, the one policeman on the west side.
>> >> Mr. BALL.. Did you see any other people up on this high ground?
>> >> Mr. BOWERS. There were one or two people in the area. Not in this same
>> >> vicinity. One of them was a parking lot attendant that operates a parking
>> >> lot there. One or two.   Each had uniforms similar to those custodians
>> >> at
>> >> the courthouse. But they were some distance back, just a slight distance
>> >> back.
>> >>     Mr. BALL. When you heard the sound, which way were you looking?
>> >>
>> >>      287
>> >>                            **********************
>> >> I don't think there is any CURE for your Criminal mind.
>> >>
>> >> I use the term Criminal because you & your cohort claim you're well read
>> >> on
>> >> the subject.
>> >> Even if you Missed some things< I posted them for you.
>> >>
>> >> This will be added to your Resume' which will be sent to your Superiors
>> >> (Aren't we ALL?)
>> >> Who are stationed at Hezbollah.
>> >>
>> >> I'm SURE they will be Impressed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tomnln,
>> >
>> > I see your stupidity and intellectual dishonesty has no boundaries.
>> >
>> > I asked you to "support your claim that Lee Bowers saw 2 (or 3,
>> > whatever you want) run form the "picket" fence."
>> >
>> > So you posted part of Bowers Warren Commission testimony.
>> >
>> > The problem is, NOWHERE in that testimony did Bowers say or even
>> > remotely imply that he saw ANYONE run from the fence.
>> >
>> > So once again you've failed to support your own claim, one that you've
>> > repeated dozens of times now, and one that you have been shown is not
>> > true.
>> >
>> > That makes you a liar.
>> ========================================================================
>> > I've also previously pointed out to you (below) that Lee Bowers NEVER
>> > told the Warren Commission that the 2 men he saw were standing behind
>> > the fence. He said they were "towards the mouth of the underpass". Not
>> > behind the fence.
>>
>> Jane, You Ignorant SLUT;
>>
>> The fence runs all the way down to and, ends AT the Overpass.
>> =========================================================================
>>
>
*****************************************
> Tomnln, you dirty whore.
>
> Yes, is does.

"YES IS DOES" "YES IS DOES"

Aren't you the guy who chastises others for Poor Grammer?

******************************************

> And toward the mouth of the underspass could be anywhere along the
> fence, or even beyond it to the east a bit.
>
> And NOWHERE does Bowers say or even remotely imply that he saw ANYONE
> run from the fence.
>
>

>> > Additionally, I've also previously pointed out (again below) that
>> > Bowers is on record as saying there was NO ONE standing behind the
>> > fence. SEE BELOW
>> >
>> > You've NEVER addressed these two points, instead choosing to ignore
>> > them.
>> >
>> > So, no not only are you a liar who makes wild claims he can't support,
>> > you're nothing shy of intellectually dishonest.
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr. BALL - Now, were there any people standing on the high side---high
>> > ground between your tower and where Elm Street goes down under the
>> > underpass toward the mouth of the underpass?
>> > Mr. BOWERS - Directly in line, towards the mouth of the underpass,
>> > there were two men. One man, middle-aged, or slightly older, fairly
>> > heavy-set, in a white shirt, fairly dark trousers. Another younger man,
Bye Bye toad
>> > about midtwenties, in either a plaid shirt or plaid coat or jacket.
>> > Mr. BALL - Were they standing together or standing separately?
>> > Mr. BOWERS - They were standing within 10 or 15 feet of each other, and
>> >
>> > gave no appearance of being together, as far as I knew.
>> > Mr. BALL - In what direction were they facing?
>> > Mr. BOWERS - They were facing and looking up towards Main and Houston,
>> > and following the caravan as it came down.
>> > He said they were "towards the mouth of the underpass". Not behind the
>> > fence.
>> >
>> > .
>> > QUOTE ON
>> > Bowers: "Now I could see back or the South side of the wooden fence in
>> > the area, so that obviously that there was no one there who could have
>> > - uh - had anything to do with either - as accomplice or anything else
>> > because there was no one there - um - at the moment that the shots were
>> >
>> > fired."
>> > ("Rush to Judgement", "Reel 18 Take 103", page 8 of 13)
>> > QUOTE OFF
>> > A point of clarification is in order here.
>> > The main portion of the stockade fence runs east and west, then turns
>> > north and a smaller section then north and south.
>> > Bowers was in located in a control tower due north of the fence.
>> > The south side of the fence faced Elm Street.
>> >>From Bowers vantage point the only side of the fence that he could have
>> >
>> > ever seen was North side of the fence, the back side.
>> > Thus Bowers seems to have misspoke when he said "I could see back or
>> > the South side of the wooden fence...", he could have only meant that
>> > he "...could see back or the North side of the wooden fence..."
>> > The portion of the fence that Bowers could see, again, the back, or the
>> >
>> > north side of the fence, is the same side of the fence that a gunman
>> > would have to be hiding behind.
>> > But Bowers clearly says "...there was no one there who could
>> > have...had anything to do with (the assassination) either...as
>> > accomplice or anything else because there was no one there...at the
>> > moment that the shots were fired."
>> >

>> >> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1155647613.506993.42500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> >> AGAIN;
>> >> >> Your Lies followed by proof in Official Record.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://whokilledjfk.net/frick.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BINGO Hezbollah.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I really appreciate you repeatedly being in Denial.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It gives me Another opportunity to post your Lies along with Official
>> >> >> Proof.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm still waiting for you to supprt your claim that Lee Bowers saw 2
>> >> > (or 3, whatever you want) run form the "picket" fence.
>> >> >
>> >> > You never supported that claim.
>> >> >
>> >> > Without support, it's just a fabrication.
>> >> >
>> >> > I, on the other hand, have shown that Bowers, BY HIS OWN WORD, said he
>> >> > saw NO ONE behind the fence.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, and you're a liar. SEE ABOVE
>> >> >

>> >> >> http://whokilledjfk.net/frick.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1155583872.598962.280490@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> >> >> That's the Shortcoming of "Opinions" toad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ellen said that you're an expert on "Shortcoming".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I don't know who she told that to, it could have been anyone here. I
>> >> >> > heard it the other day, I think.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I "PROVED" you're a LIAR with Official Records.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Only in your paranoid delusions, old crazy man.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Liar.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://whokilledjfk.net/frick.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You and your words are in That Hall of "Infamy".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > More like, "Hall of Piss Poor Web Sites Run by an Old Man Nut Job
>> >> >> > Case".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You ain't No Lazarus...........You're Still Dead.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So you now are claiming I'm dead?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Let me guess, you killed me, right? With a shot from the grassy
>> >> >> > knoll.
>> >> >> > You were dressed like a tramp and ran to a boxcar. Lee Bowers saw
>> >> >> > you,
>> >> >> > right?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You need to see a doctor, Tom. A good head shrink. Real bad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And isn't Lazaus still dead as well?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hmmm. Yes, he is.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So you're an idiot.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Liars usually Are.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So your theory is that people who are liars are usually dead?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Are you in the fourth grade?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1155574985.964904.286150@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> > Alive and well, thinkg everyday about what a liar Tom Rossley is.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > rob.spencer@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Quote from Sheep dipper:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "You would be as DEAD as your partner toad vaughan."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Just checking.

"tomnln" <tomnln@cox.net> wrote in message news:...
>
> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1155762094.618975.221700@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> tomnln wrote:
>>> WHY is everyone in front of the TSBD heading TO or, Looking at the
>>> Grassy
>>> Knoll when Officer Baker Raced to the TSBD within seconds???
>>
> =================================================================
>> "Everyone" is not.
>
> Point out WHO is focusing on the TSBD?
> ================================================================
>> Also, have you ever read the testimony of Phil Willis?
>
> The subject is photos showing where people's focus was.    G N or, TSBD?
> Losers always change the subject.
> ===============================================================
>
>
>>> They aren't even looking at Baker as he Races past them?
>
> My point Exactly.    NOR, the TSBD.    They All Focused on the G N.
> ==================================================================
>> Some are.
>>
>> So what?
>>
>>
> ===================================================================
>>> Your logic (or, lack of) matches everything else you post here.
>>
>
>> Oh I think we've seen who got passed over when logic was passed out,
>> NUTCASE.
>
> Like your acceptance of Grizzlie's claim that Agent Hickey killed JFK?
> Why is it that you Never challenged That Lie?    Aren't you in pursuit of
> Truth?
>
>>> WHY did Baker give 4 different accounts of his lunchroom encounter with
>>> Oswald?
>
> Are you Avoiding THIS one on Baker in your Support of Felons?
> Where's that sense of Truth you claim to have?
> ===================================================================
>
>
>>> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1155746934.758315.201900@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> > Ben Holmes wrote:
>>> >> In article <1155744106.630422.119410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
>>> >> Todd
>>> >> W.
>>> >> Vaughan says...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >lazuli777@webtv.net wrote:
>>> >> >> What I want to know is where is a photograph showing swarms of
>>> >> >> people
>>> >> >> running towards the TSBD as being the source of the shots?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >What, do you really think there's no one that pinpointed the TSBD as
>>> >> >the source of the shots?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >The majority of people who first ran up the knoll where not even in
>>> >> >Delaey Plaza at the time of the shooting
>>> >>
>>> >> Yep... just happened to wander over from the next block...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > In fact many, if not most, did "wander over from the next block". They
>>> > streamed into Dealey Plaza from the Main and Houston corner and from
>>> > east up Main Street. You can see this happening in the later sequences
>>> > from the Hughes film, and, to a degree the Nix film. Still photos also
>>> > help to bear this out.
>>> >
>>> > But I'm not surprised that you're ignorant of this fact.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> >and where doing nothing more
>>> >> >than following Officer Haygood. Even more followed them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Good spin. Everyone loves a running cop, right?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Spin?
>>> >
>>> > You must be truly ignorant of the photographic evidence in the case.
>>> >
>>> > Examine the photos, Ben, if you have them, and even know what to look
>>> > at/for.
>>> >
>>> > Stills by Bond, Skaggs, and Willis would be a good start. Combine that
>>> > with the Nix and Hughes films.
>>> >
>>> > The fact is that no one ascends the knoll until after Officer Haygod
>>> > does. Once he runs yup, others follow him up to the Overpass-Fence
>>> > abutment. Later some begin bypassing the abutment by going up the
>>> > walkway.
>>> >
>>> > Do you deny this, Ben?
>>> >

Your memory is almost as LOW as your Character.

see it HERE>>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/frick.htm

It was You who wanted to Vomit on my wife.
When I told you of your COST for that, you became a Cry-Baby.

It was you who intimated you raped my wife.
When I told you of your COST for that, you became a Cry-Baby.

No wonder you deny being married to a Criminal.

You have NO Morals at all.

> You're such an freaking idiot Tom.
>
> It was you who first attacked my wife and family.
>
> Remember that?
>>

"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1158674239.301883.143300@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > tomnln wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Lousy's Anti-Semitism gets wider & widerer.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Nothing Tom Lowry wrote was anti-Semitic.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You're a wacko.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And a liar.

See FRICK AND FRACK TOM LOWRY BELOW

Has anyone noticed toad's Silence on his wife justme's "Condemnation" of American Veterans?