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The testimony of Walter Eugene Potts was taken at 11:45 a.m., on April 3,
1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and
Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the
President's Commission.
Mr. BALL. Will you hold up your right hand and be sworn, please?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give
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before the Commission shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
Mr. POTTS. I do.
Mr. BALL. Will you state your name, please?
Mr. POTTS. Walter Eugene Potts.
Mr. BALL. What business or occupation are you in?
Mr. POTTS. I am a detective with the police department, homicide, Dallas.
Mr. BALL. How long have you been with the police department in Dallas?
Mr. POTTS. Since October 21, 1947.
Mr. BALL. And how long have you been with the homicide department?
Mr. POTTS. June 6, 1956.
Mr. BALL. Can you tell me something about where you were born and where you were
educated and what you have done since then?
Mr. POTTS. I was born at Sherman, Tex., April 28, 1922, and I came to Dallas in
1924 and was raised here in Dallas, attended public schools in Dallas, graduated
from this Dallas--it's Crozier Tech now, but it was Dallas Technical High School
right here on Bryan Street in 1941, and when I graduated I went to work for
Southwest Airmotive at Love Field, and I worked for Taycee Badgett Aviation in
1942 and 1943, in Shreveport, La., and I took an aviation cadet mental and
physical down there and came back to Dallas to be inducted into the service, and
I worked for Lockheed at Love Field before I went in the service, and I went in
the service in July 1945. I was discharged in January 1947. I was in the 796th
Military Police Battalion in Vienna, Austria, and also the 505th there.
I came back and went to work for the Taylor Publishing Co. just before I went to
work for the police department. My mother and father, they still live here out
on Brookfield and my sister lives here. I am one of the very few native boys in
this police department down here--that's raised right here.
Mr. BALL. And on November 22, 1963, you had the day off, didn't you?
Mr. POTTS. Yes sir; that was my day off.
Mr. BALL. And did you hear on the radio the President had been shot?
Mr. POTTS. Well, my wife and I had gone to the cleaners up there at Jim Miller
and Military, and I suppose it was around 12:30 or a quarter to 1--around 1
o'clock and we pulled up in front of the cleaners there and Mr. Wright at the
barbershop came out to the car and he said, "Have you heard about the President
getting shot?"
You know, I thought he was joking and I thought he was kidding and I turned on
my car radio and there it was.
We went on back home and I called the office immediately and talked to Detective
Baker, he's a lieutenant now, and he said he was calling all the men back and I
started to get dressed--get ready, and I told him I would be there as soon as I
could, and I got dressed and got there within the hour, which was around 2 or
before.
Mr. BALL. What did you do when you first got there?
Mr. POTTS. When I was walking across the street there, I parked my car over at
the Scottish Rite parking lot there and it's the Masonic lot and when I come
across the street there at Commerce and Harwood this officer on the corner there
said, "Did you hear about Tippit getting killed?" I said, "No; I didn't hear
about that." He said, "Yes; I understand he got killed on a disturbance call
over in Oak Cliff." That's the first I had heard about Tippit and when I got to
the office, I walked in and Baker told me, "We have some people here from the
Texas School Book Depository--there are four or five of them back there," and he
said, "Would you go back there and take some affidavits from them?" And I said,
"Sure," and I went back there and took one from this Arce, and I was in the
process of taking one from this Jack Dougherty when I heard some officers coming
in the door there, and I heard one of them say, "We've got the man that killed
Tippit."
So, they brought him on back in while we were sitting back in the squadroom and
I was sitting back there with Dougherty and Arce, and they came by and put him
in the side interrogation room back there. As you walk in the door, there is an
interrogation room right straight ahead and then you turn right to
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go back in the squadroom and you go on back in the squadroom, and this Mr.
Dougherty looked at me and he said, "I know that man."
He said, "He works down there in that building--the Texas School Book Depository
Building." He said, "I don't know his name, but I know him." So did Arce he
said, "Yes, he works down there."
So, I went ahead and took those affidavits from them--from those people and we
got them notarized.
Mr. BALL. You mean Arce and Dougherty?
Mr. POTTS. Arce and Dougherty. There were some more officers back there taking
affidavits from some of the others--some of those other people I don't know--you
know, time and all the confusion around there, you don't exactly know what time,
but my partner, Bill Senkel, and F. M. Turner--we work a three-man squad, and
Bill came around and he talked to Captain Fritz, and he said "Come on, let's go.
We are going out to 1026 North Beckley."
He came around and told me, he said--he asked me if I had finished taking the
affidavits, and I told him, "Yes," and he said, "Captain Fritz wants you and I
to go out to Oswald's or Hidell's or Oswald's room."
On his person--he must have had--he did have identification with the name Alex
Hidell and Oswald---Lee Harvey Oswald, but Lt. E. L. Cunningham of the forgery
bureau, who used to be a member of the homicide and robbery bureau before he
made lieutenant, he went with us and we went out there.
Mr. BALL. Before you went out there, did you get a search warrant?
Mr. POTTS. No; we didn't--we didn't get a search warrant at that time. We went
to the location and talked to the people there.
Mr. BALL. That's Lt. E. L. Cunningham?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And who else?
Mr. POTTS. B. L. Senkel.
Mr. BALL. And yourself?
Mr. POTTS. And myself.
Mr. BALL. And you went out to where?
Mr. POTTS. 1026 North Beckley.
Mr. BALL. What happened when you got there?
Mr. POTTS. We got there and we talked to this Mrs.--I believe her name was
Johnson.
Mr. BALL Mrs. A. C. Johnson?
Mr. POTTS. Mrs. Johnson and Mrs. Roberts.
Mr. BALL. Earlene Roberts?
Mr. POTTS. Yes; and they didn't know a Lee Harvey Oswald or an Alex Hidell
either one and they couldn't--they just didn't have any idea who we were talking
about, so the television--it is a rooming house, and there was a television----
Mr. BALL. Did you check their registration books?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, sir; we looked at the registration book--Senkel, I think, or
Cunningham--well, we all looked through the registration book and there wasn't
anyone by that name, and the television was on in the living room. There's an
area there where the roomers sit, I guess it's the living quarters--it flashed
Oswald's picture on there and one of the women, either Mrs. Roberts or Mrs.
Johnson said, "That's the man that lives here. That's Mr. Lee---O.H. Lee." She
said, "His room is right here right off of the living room."
Senkel or Cunningham, one of them, called the office and they said that Turner
was en route with a search warrant and we waited there until 4:30 or 5 that
afternoon. We got out there about 3.
Mr. BALL. You waited there in the home?
Mr. POTTS. We waited there in the living quarters.
Mr. BALL. You did not go into the small room that had been rented by Lee?
Mr. POTTS. No; we didn't--we didn't search the room at all until we got the
warrant.
Mr. BALL. Who brought the warrant out?
Mr. POTTS. Judge David Johnston.
Mr. BALL. The judge issued it, but who brought it out?
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